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Oct. 22nd, 2008

12:34 pm - I don't usually rant, but man what a bunch of crooks.

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Man, the Republican campaign's been getting nasty. Look who's been attending McCain & Palin's rallies: Scary racists. Scary Fundamentalist Christians. Scary rednecks. If Palin's idea of "the 'pro-America' parts of the country" means places where a guy can call one of the presidential candidates a "nigger" and get away with it, where a guy can yell "Terrorist! Kill him!" about one of the presidential candidates and get away with it, then I for one want no part of this sick, twisted America that Sarah Palin seems to live in, dontcha know, you betcha, wink wink, nucular.

The Republicans are throwing around so much bullshit about Obama that it's hard to debunk it all. Mudslinging? They're trying to bury Obama in an ocean of mud. (Ahh, that must be why they've taken to calling him by his nickname, Barry.) They're trying to destroy him. It seems like they're hoping some nut will assassinate him. And why? Because they're scared of him. And why are they so scared of him? Because they're a bunch of crooks. The Republican Party's been taken over by a gang of crooks, who have spent the last eight years partying it up and turning America into a cesspool, and now they're scared they'll get caught and have to face the consequences. So now they've ramped up the propaganda machine (the only thing they're actually good at) and are trying to destroy Obama by making the voters as scared of him as they are. Don't believe their bullshit. Because that's all it is. Bullshit.

President Obama. I like the sound of that.

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From:nefaria
Date:October 22nd, 2008 06:07 pm (UTC)
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Rep. Murtha called me and all my neighbors "racist" and "rednecks" a few days ago. There's plenty of hate flying around on both sides of the aisle. But I don't blame the entire party of either side for it, just the annoying, noisy few who want the headlines.
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From:orv
Date:October 22nd, 2008 08:53 pm (UTC)
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The McCain campaign has encouraged it, by having Sarah Palin try to convince people that Obama is a Scary Terrorist.

My concern is that they're really playing with fire here. There are people who, if they become convinced that Obama will sell the country out to terrorists, would consider killing him a noble, patriotic act. The Republican party does not exactly have a shortage of gun owners with a black-and-white view of good and evil.
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From:dv_girl
Date:October 22nd, 2008 06:22 pm (UTC)
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I'm starting to wonder if McCain's strategy isn't, "If I can't be president. NO ONE CAN!" Maybe he hopes to start a civil war. It might be awesome to watch the South get its ass kicked again.
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From:bikerwalla
Date:October 22nd, 2008 06:25 pm (UTC)
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We have to vote for him in such an overwhelming landslide that the Republicans dirty tricks won't make McCain win.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23638322/block_the_vote/print
http://wvgazette.com/News/200810180251
"This is the second West Virginia county where voters have reported this problem. Last week, three voters in Jackson County told The Charleston Gazette their electronic vote for "Barack Obama" kept flipping to "John McCain".

In both counties, Republicans are responsible for overseeing elections. Both county clerks said the problem is isolated."
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From:yakko
Date:October 22nd, 2008 07:17 pm (UTC)
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I won't touch the electronic voting machine with a barge pole. The other alternative for my state, the "scan-tron" ballot, is better, but having that ballot disappear into a big machine that looks like a shredder is a tad worrying.

I know all sides are lying, but I just do not trust the Republicans at all.
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From:sky
Date:October 22nd, 2008 06:31 pm (UTC)
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To be fair the burning bush in effigy wasn't exactly a great day for democrats. :p Neither side runs a clean campaign which is why I'm not voting for either one of them.

Did you know that Mickey Mouse would end world hunger with one of his varieties of buffets available just outside the it's a small world ride?
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From:orv
Date:October 22nd, 2008 08:55 pm (UTC)
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I think you're drawing a false equivalency. It's one thing to question a candidate's policies as misguided, but it's another thing entirely to accuse him of siding with people who want to do harm to the country. I think the latter should be off limits in a campaign.
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From:wakkowarner
Date:October 22nd, 2008 07:36 pm (UTC)
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I like the sound of it too. Honestly, it'd be nice to vote for a less-crazy Ron Paul or Dennis Kucinich, but I'll take what I can get.

The Republicans this time around seem to have run out of ammo, so they're throwing the kitchen sink at this poor guy, with accusations of character assassination against Palin and McCain coming out of the other side of their mouth at the same time.

As a side note, it looks as though TronGuy is too afraid of being wrong, wrong, wrong to bother commenting in your journal.
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From:deckardcanine
Date:October 22nd, 2008 09:21 pm (UTC)
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A literal kitchen sink makes a less threatening projectile.
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:October 22nd, 2008 11:54 pm (UTC)
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Did yew say, an Ay-rab?
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From:yakko
Date:October 22nd, 2008 09:25 pm (UTC)
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Muckraking is the very basis of my refusal to read or watch much about the candidates in the mainstream media. This "coverage" is designed to bias and influence voters. It is NOT proper discourse. It hardly has any basis in fact. It is designed to make certain the voters vote with their emotions rather than with proper information of the issues.

I'd much rather be properly informed than have to admit that "I voted for McCain because some YouTube video out of Kentucky told me Obama was a terrorist." It's too bad that people let these smear tactics and talking heads substitute for proper education on the issues.
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:October 23rd, 2008 02:50 am (UTC)
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Yes, miseducation, whether you're a Democrat, Republican, or independent, really worries and frightens me.

Neo-naziism, anti-semitism, and Holocaust denial are alive and well because it's easy to get on the 'net.

Spam succeeds because people believe it if it's on the 'net

And misinformation and hatred spread because people read it, believe it, and pass it on.

Can someone get the 400 million CMKs* off the 'net, please?

* 50 bonus points if you get the ref and know what it stands for.
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From:woyro
Date:October 22nd, 2008 09:54 pm (UTC)
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the only way Palin should be allowed in the White House is to shake President Obama's hand...and then piss off back to Alaska.
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From:akseawolf
Date:October 23rd, 2008 08:14 am (UTC)
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Palin exemplifies the mindset of the kind of people that I hoped to leave behind when I moved away from Alaska.

Although I must say she is the best news for the Democratic party that we've had in a long time.
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From:yohannahyork
Date:October 22nd, 2008 11:10 pm (UTC)
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Yeah, I had this old biddy email me this, this morning.

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/06/25/texas-darlin-and-the-mystery-of-the-birth-certificate/

What a pile of crap! Why do people perpetuate nonsense!!??!
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From:orv
Date:October 23rd, 2008 12:06 am (UTC)
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Not that it'll help, but you can always counter with this:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

It has good detail photos of the birth certificate, including the raised notary seal.

It's worth noting that my copy of my own birth certificate would never pass muster with these people. It has no raised seal at all and looks like a bad photocopy, except for a line in red that says "THIS LINE RED ON AN OFFICIAL COPY." It was good enough to get me a passport, though.
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From:rogerirrelevant
Date:October 23rd, 2008 12:08 am (UTC)
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Truth be told, I hold little faith in the upcoming Presidential Elections being fair. I also fully expect every "American Idiot" will simply crawl out of the woodwork just to make sure than the "nigger"/"terrist"/"Muslim" doesn't get into power.

I used to be very fond of America years back. Earlier today I found myself telling someone at work, "I'd rather have sex with a vat of acid than step foot on its soil" earlier today. To me (and to everyone I know), the USA simply doesn't have a shred of credibility left.

Please, please, PLEASE prove me wrong.
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:October 23rd, 2008 02:59 am (UTC)
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We can always send election monitors like we do to such "bastions of democracy" as Zimbabwe, Kenya, and the Dem. Rep. of Congo to make sure that the US elections are fair.

And then come back with the same verdict we give Zimbabwe, Kenya, and Congo.
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From:joysweeper
Date:October 23rd, 2008 12:52 am (UTC)
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I'm busy trying to keep my mom and grandmother talked around. With my mom, well, Dad's progressive too, and she doesn't like Palin, so I'm mostly sure that she's voting Obama. Grandma, though... Grandma's tricky. She doesn't like McCain all that much, but she's not sure that Obama's "for America" enough.

Glad that I've already voted. Good thing my dad knows how to get absentee ballots!
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From:zalno
Date:October 23rd, 2008 12:54 am (UTC)
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Remember, people voted for Bush twice. There's always going to be some people who will vote for McCain. Hell, one of my friends at college said he'll vote for McCain. He even thought Bush did a good job!
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From:akseawolf
Date:October 23rd, 2008 08:20 am (UTC)
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Not all mudslinging is bad. While the Base is energized by it, it is sending independent voters to Barack in droves. You may have noticed that Republicans have toned down the rhetoric recently as campaign managers have figured out that they are only falling further behind in the polls because of it.
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From:nefaria
Date:October 23rd, 2008 12:43 pm (UTC)
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Something odd I've noticed: there are still a truckload of undecideds out there. One poll had 45% Obama, 42% McCain, that's 13% who still haven't made up their minds yet.
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From:shell524
Date:October 23rd, 2008 04:39 pm (UTC)
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It's not necessarily people who are undecided. For all that there are no other HUGE political parties, there ARE other options. Some of that 13% is simply undecided, but some portion of it will vote for other candidates available on their ballots.
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From:drmercurious
Date:October 25th, 2008 12:18 am (UTC)
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My attempt to sound non-partisan...

Everyone out there, please, please, PLEASE...get out there and make a vote that counts. Don't vote for an imaginary character. Study the issues, do research on your candidates, take CHARGE of your voting. Yes, it's hard, it will eat up your free time, but in the end it will be worth it. Someone said that the worst thing about Democracy is that 'we get the government we deserve', and IMHO, that's a very true statement.
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From:circuit_four
Date:October 30th, 2008 01:09 am (UTC)
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But you talk like that's ENOUGH. I'm sorry, it's really not. Just picking from one of two entrenched parties isn't a real choice. The "no, you haaaave to vote, it's your duty and you're scum if you don't do it" attitude only bothers in me in one, unfortunately very very common circumstance -- when the people saying it aren't fulfilling any other part of their civic duty: no letters to representatives, no volunteering, no activism, just complacently handing their power over to Guy One or Guy Two in a race and acting like that's enough. I'm not accusing you of that, but I am accusing a lot of people of it.
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