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Feb. 19th, 2008

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What is the deal with pronouncing Xavier "ex-avier"?! Why not go all the way and call him "See-harles Ex-avier"?

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From:zrath
Date:February 19th, 2008 08:01 am (UTC)
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"Ex-avier"? That's weird.

In French, the "x" has its own sound, it's not pronounced like a "z".
It's pronounced "gz" with a hard "g".
So it's "gzavier" and "gzylophone" and "gzergzes".


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From:kinkyturtle
Date:February 19th, 2008 08:37 am (UTC)
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Actually, the way people say it is usually more like "egzavier". English speakers could pronounce it "gzavier", except that because the sound combination "gz" never appears at the beginning of a word in English, they think they can't pronounce it.

That's the same reason they say "sunami" instead of "tsunami". It's some kind of weird phonetic brainwashing.
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From:athelind
Date:February 19th, 2008 04:45 pm (UTC)
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I say "tsunami", pronouncing the "t", but I've always pronounced Chuck's surname as "Zavier".

Now, I know someone whose middle name is "Xavier", and he insists that he's always prnounced it "Ecksavier".

Amusingly, there's an extensive discussion of How To Pronounce Professor X's Surname in the TV Tropes pages about Two First Names, which I was looking at just last night.
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From:rubbertexcooper
Date:February 19th, 2008 08:13 am (UTC)
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Wa... h....uh.... *Cries* You broked my brain again. T.T lol
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From:ceruleanst
Date:February 19th, 2008 12:47 pm (UTC)
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Schoolhouse Rock has that to answer for.
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From:nefaria
Date:February 19th, 2008 01:09 pm (UTC)
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I was going to say Dr. Charles Xavier from X-Men started the trend, but Schoolhouse Rock came first. I guess people think every word that starts with x has to be pronounced as x because x-ray does.
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From:deckardcanine
Date:February 19th, 2008 04:55 pm (UTC)
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You may as well ask why "Stephen" has the only PH that sounds like a V.
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:February 20th, 2008 12:38 am (UTC)
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Or how about "Thomas"? Why is TH pronounced T there?
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From:chocorisu
Date:February 19th, 2008 11:54 pm (UTC)
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Cause it's a silly comic book pun?
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From:deckardcanine
Date:February 20th, 2008 02:43 am (UTC)
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Not exclusively. I recall from TV ads that "Xavier Roberts" has it pronounced the same.
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:February 20th, 2008 12:00 am (UTC)
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I suppose that a persons pronounciation of their name is up to them, unlike the spelling (which was assumedly registered at birth), pronounciation can be any which way.

Of course, I'm a Winnipegger, and only a Winnipegger knows how to pronounce names like "Lagimodiere", "Portage Avenue", "Des Meurons" and even "Plessis" (which I've seen widely mispronounced even from other Winnipeggers!) Granted, street names have no definitive pronounciation, but at least two of those are from proper anmes, that do have definitive pronounciations.
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From:bassfingers
Date:February 20th, 2008 07:55 am (UTC)
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"It's only spelled Luxury Yacht. It is pronounced Throat-wobbler Mangrove."
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From:ronald_mack
Date:February 20th, 2008 12:36 am (UTC)
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Probably because so many alphabet charts in schools have X-ray as the only x word example, so they think that X just sounds like "ecks" in most words.
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From:qaianna
Date:February 20th, 2008 05:53 am (UTC)
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All I know is that it's how I've usually heard the name pronounced. Kind'a like how it sounds, too. French seems to have it 'Za-vee-AY', which seems in line with French rules on spelling; the Spanish equivalent isn't bad either, tho I actually get somewhat annoyed when someone pronounces it as an English 'j'.

And for the record, ever since watching anime more I've been trying to use 'tsu' as its own syllable. It's hard.
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From:errickfoxy
Date:February 23rd, 2008 04:59 pm (UTC)
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I got it from the cartoon version. Saturday mornings. He was Ex-avier there, so that's the version that stuck with me.
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