A.R.M. (kinkyturtle) wrote,

Yet another stupid Ramirez cartoon

The Ramirez cartoon printed in today's Houston Chronicle is unwittingly a perfect encapsulation of why we're even having a debate about whether torture is bad, a perfect encapsulation of the widespread neocon mindset that allows such a barbaric practice to exist.

It shows the Capitol Building, with a voice inside saying, "We would never pour water up someone's nose for 30 seconds to prevent 9/11 and save 2,996 lives." Wow! We could have prevented 9/11 by pouring water up someone's nose? Sounds like... magic! Also sounds totally disconnected from reality. Who could we have tortured to prevent 9/11? Osama bin Laden, perhaps. Certainly not Saddam freakin' Hussein. And how would torture have helped, given that confession obtained under duress is so unreliable it's not even admissible in court?

(I mean heck, this is even demonstrated in Star Wars! Darth Vader tortures Princess Leia and even threatens to blow up her home planet to get her to tell him where the rebel base is, and she says "Dantooine". And, guess what, the rebel base is not on Dantooine.)

And that's not even to mention the numerous "suspected terrorists" who are being tortured now in Guantanamo, many of whom, perhaps even most, are likely innocent and have no information to give.

So, in conclusion: why does the Chronicle print this trash? As Joe the Liberal Eagle keeps saying, "Liberal media, my tailfeathers."

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