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Nov. 28th, 2006

09:06 pm - KIDNEYSTONE

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That does it. No more Dr Pepper for me, ever. I'll give away what I have left, and never buy any more, and switch to Sprite or orange juice or something.

I've got another kidneystone, and it's the most painful one I've had in a long time. It popped up after I got out of bed this morning, and has been turning my day into a living hell.

I'm doing okay right now because I have strong painkillers. But if this kidneystone doesn't come out before Thursday, I may consider skipping the Furry Cruise, which I don't really want to do because I don't want to face various hassles, such as getting refunds (if I can even do that), I've got the cruise booklet for myself and my cabinmate akseawolf, canceling a motel reservation I made, and so on.

Current Mood: determineddetermined
Current Music: The Beatles - Savoy Truffle

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From:zeek_hedgehog
Date:November 29th, 2006 03:14 am (UTC)
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Hope you feel better soon!

Sucks that your having to quit drinking Dr. Pepper.

Speaking of which I remember someone out there who collects all the Dr. Pepper knock offs and they had a photo of their collection...any idea who it was.
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From:khirmoonclaw
Date:November 29th, 2006 03:17 am (UTC)
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Erf sory to hear about that KT..

I primarly drink Sprite and V8 myself. Give the new V8 Fusions a try there pretty good and really good or ya

Hope ya feel better soon!

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From:zeek_hedgehog
Date:November 29th, 2006 04:02 am (UTC)
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Oh murrrr the orange V8 Fusion is awesome.

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From:drmercurious
Date:November 29th, 2006 03:42 am (UTC)

Feh.

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I have the gout, so I drink almost 2 gallons of water a day -- no kidneystones for me. No soda either. :(
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From:zorro456
Date:December 2nd, 2006 05:42 am (UTC)

Re: Feh.

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No meat, beans, tofu or nuts at all forever. Allopurinol, and Colchicine purine reducers. Etodolac and Indomethacin pain killers with Vicodin and Tylox in reserve for acute attacks.

Protein Metabolism problems are a bitch to live with no?

Plus the medicines cause kidney stones.
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From:drmercurious
Date:December 2nd, 2006 06:26 pm (UTC)

Re: Feh.

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Yeeks. Fortunately, mine can be controlled through diet and water intake -- which is good, since the one time I took Inodenthacin for an extended period I started racking up the ol' side effects.
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From:orv
Date:November 29th, 2006 03:56 am (UTC)
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If you don't mind my asking, what's the link between Dr Pepper and kidney stones? I remember my grandpa having to stop drinking milk because of them, but I didn't know pop could also have an effect. Is it the caffeine?
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:November 29th, 2006 04:02 am (UTC)
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As I understand it, it's the phosphoric acid. I think there's something about it turning into oxalic acid and forming crystals of calcium oxalate in the kidneys.

This is why it sucks that kidneys have no user serviceable parts. Wish I could just, like, open a little trap door and pop those things out of there.
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From:orv
Date:November 29th, 2006 04:04 am (UTC)
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Okay. That makes some kind of sense. A lot of kinds of pop do have phosphoric acid.
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From:lcremeans
Date:November 29th, 2006 03:15 pm (UTC)
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Phosphoric acid can't turn into oxalate (only oxalic acid can do that); the real problem is that it reacts with calcium to form an insoluble salt, like oxalic acid does (in this case, it'd be calcium phosphate, the same stuff your bones are composed of). If you eat a lot of oxalic acid-containing foods, in particular spinach and tomatoes, that will add to things as well.

Switching to a soda based on citric acid should help (most non-cola sodas are citric acid-based). A quick read over on Wikipedia says that citric acid actually helps reduce the risk of stones.
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From:deckardcanine
Date:November 29th, 2006 07:09 pm (UTC)
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I was thinking aspartame, but that's in diet sodas.

Sorry you have to give up something you seem to have loved. As it happens, I drank Dr. Pepper yesterday, but it was only a dinky can's worth.
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From:linnaeus
Date:November 29th, 2006 04:08 am (UTC)
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Tea and Spinach are also big for growing calcium oxalate type stones.

Really sorry to hear that, KT. I've been there, and I feel for you. Drink lots of water, keep moving as much as you can, and keep painkillers handy.
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From:aatheus
Date:November 29th, 2006 06:26 am (UTC)
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The question is, how is coffee for such things? I have drank 2-4 cups of coffee for several years now (stopped recently)
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From:linnaeus
Date:November 29th, 2006 12:28 pm (UTC)
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Coffee isn't bad, actually. There's nothing wrong with tea for people who aren't predisposed to forming calcium oxalate kidney stones, but since it has a lot of calcium oxalate in it (way more than coffee), it's something they generally suggest you avoid once you've had one.
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:November 29th, 2006 06:59 am (UTC)
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Fortunately I don't drink tea, and I hardly ever eat spinach. (Probably why I'm not strong to the finich, arf arf!)
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From:nefaria
Date:November 29th, 2006 12:13 pm (UTC)
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Raspberry iced tea is a good substitute beverage I think.

I didn't even know Dr. Pepper caused kidney stones, I figured the acid in it would help dissolve them.

Anyway, I hope you're feeling better soon.
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From:nefaria
Date:November 29th, 2006 12:15 pm (UTC)
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Whoops, cancel the raspberry iced tea, I didn't know it was stone-enhancing.

Maybe what you need is a nice bowl of turtle soup....
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:November 29th, 2006 04:05 pm (UTC)
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Or squirrel soup, mmmm.
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From:squeakybunny
Date:November 29th, 2006 04:59 pm (UTC)
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You have my sympathy. It's no fun to get a rock stuck in your pee shooter.
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:November 29th, 2006 05:35 pm (UTC)
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I just wanna know whose idea it was to make kidneys with no user-serviceable parts and I want him fired! Some sort of flap or valve on the side to squeeze them out through, that's all I ask! The human body, a marvel of engineering? Pfft! Strictly lowest-bidder, and it shows.
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:November 29th, 2006 09:25 pm (UTC)
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Too bad, I have always come to associate Dr. Pepper with you. But better no kidney stones than kidney stones and Dr. Pepper I spose.

Guess you also have to cut flux out of your diet too, apparently it's quite highly made up of phosphoric acid. Which is another shame, as flux is quite tasty (especially Mediterranean style!)
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:November 30th, 2006 04:03 am (UTC)
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Our housekeeper is going to drink it.
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From:chrisbcritter
Date:December 1st, 2006 12:04 am (UTC)
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hope you are feeling better *huggggggggggggggggggggggggs* ;-)
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