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Sep. 4th, 2010

03:13 pm - False-nationality names

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"False-nationality name" is a term I just made up. It refers to a name that contains a national adjective, even though the thing with that name didn't come from that country. For example, Russian dressing is not from Russia (not even with love). French fries didn't come from France, and the game of Chinese checkers was not invented in China.

Know any other examples?

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From:kesh
Date:September 4th, 2010 10:09 pm (UTC)
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The French press was patented by an Italian.

A white Russian was invented in California.

The Brazilian-style bikini wax was invented in New York in 1980.
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From:wbwolf
Date:September 4th, 2010 10:19 pm (UTC)
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French horn but is actually German

English Horn (or Cor Anglais) but is Czech in origin

Pennsylvania Dutch are actually German

Norway rat originated in China

Edited at 2010-09-04 10:22 pm (UTC)
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:September 4th, 2010 10:58 pm (UTC)
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"I've been practicing the horn, or French horn as they call it. German horn, as the French call it. Not to be confused with the cor Anglais."
--Michael Flanders
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From:houseboatonstyx
Date:September 4th, 2010 10:50 pm (UTC)
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Irish stew?

Siamese cats? (Didn't see any in THailand.)
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:September 10th, 2010 08:17 pm (UTC)
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Siamese twins? Sure, the most famous ones of the time the phrase was coined, Chang and Eng Bunker, were from Siam, but Siamese twins of course aren't from Siam or Thailand.

Probably part of the reason they're no longer called that.
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From:orv
Date:September 4th, 2010 11:10 pm (UTC)
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The French Dip isn't from France; it was invented in L.A.

Turkeys, of course, are not from Turkey, but Europeans confused them with another bird...which also wasn't from Turkey, but had been imported to Europe through there.

The Yugo...well, OK, it was made in Yugoslavia, but it was a clone of an obsolete Fiat design.
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From:timmowarner
Date:September 4th, 2010 11:47 pm (UTC)
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Turkeys aren't from turkey. They can't fly but they can dance.
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:September 5th, 2010 01:01 am (UTC)
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But wheeeeere... where do they make ballooooons?
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From:captpackrat
Date:September 5th, 2010 02:51 am (UTC)
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"As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly."
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From:tilt_longtail
Date:September 5th, 2010 02:47 am (UTC)
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Chinese fire drill?
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From:captpackrat
Date:September 5th, 2010 03:01 am (UTC)
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Great Danes are from Germany, not Denmark.

Labrador Retrievers are from Newfoundland, not Labrador.
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From:unspeakablevorn
Date:September 5th, 2010 03:10 am (UTC)
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Bikinis aren't from Bikini.
The natives of Easter and Christmas Islands don't celebrate Easter or Christmas.
English is only called that in America.
French toast was likely invented in medieval Spain.
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From:unspeakablevorn
Date:September 5th, 2010 04:02 am (UTC)
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Indians aren't Indian.
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From:captpackrat
Date:September 5th, 2010 03:20 am (UTC)
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Most dressings with national names aren't from said country. In addition to Russian:
Italian dressing isn't from Italy
French dressing (as served in the US, homogeneous red goo) isn't from France.

French toast is originally from Spain.

German chocolate cake was invented by an Englishman named Samuel German.

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From:doodlesthegreat
Date:September 5th, 2010 06:13 am (UTC)
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Dutch rabbits are actually from England.
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From:patcat
Date:September 5th, 2010 09:06 pm (UTC)
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Canadian bacon isn't from Canada. (We call it back bacon up here.)
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From:rikchik
Date:September 6th, 2010 01:08 pm (UTC)
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When someone just says "bacon" do you think of the same marbled rectangular strips that Americans do?
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:September 10th, 2010 08:15 pm (UTC)
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Mmmmm, bacon! Glarghghghgh ...

(to answer your question, yes.)
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From:rikchik
Date:September 10th, 2010 08:29 pm (UTC)
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I had always thought that to Canadians, "bacon" meant some kind of ham. So what does the line about "pre-wrapped bacon" in "If I Had 1000000$" refer to? Raw strips of bacon? It made more sense when I thought they were talking about small individually wrapped cooked ham chunks.
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:September 10th, 2010 09:55 pm (UTC)
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From the song:

"They have pre-wrapped sausages, but they don't have pre-wrapped bacon!"
"Well, can you blame 'em?"
"Well, yeah!"

Emphasis mine.
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From:deckardcanine
Date:September 6th, 2010 12:16 am (UTC)
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Panama hats are from Ecuador. (The source I read as a kid said Peru, but further research says otherwise. Darn those weird-facts lists; they taught me so much that wasn't quite correct.)
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From:octan
Date:September 6th, 2010 07:07 pm (UTC)
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There is no such breed as "French poodle." Poodles originally came from Germany (it's short for "pudelhund", which roughly translates to "water dog". (Although it was the French who came up with the famous grooming style.)
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:September 10th, 2010 08:18 pm (UTC)
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Somewhat different:

A Jew's harp has nothing to do with the religion or practitioners thereof. "Jew" is a corruption of "jaw".
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:September 12th, 2010 06:49 am (UTC)
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Hi!

(...which does not come from the Highlands.)
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