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Nov. 2nd, 2008

11:59 am - Cheers!

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Many people whose opinions I respect and admire have pointed out that voting for President based on which guy you'd rather have a beer with is idiotic, because what matters is how competent a candidate is, and how sensible his proposed policies are, not how folksy or average-Joe-like he is. And I agree with that. I voted (early!) for Barack Obama because I believe he will be a better President than McCain would. Heck, I believe he's the best Presidential candidate we've had in a long time.

But y'know what? If I drank beer, I think I would rather have a beer with Obama than with McCain. McCain's nice enough, but he's a little... creepy, y'know what I mean? And people who think Obama can't be folksy, down-to-earth, and just plain friendly clearly haven't been watching him. I'd be glad to have a Dr Pepper with him.

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From:xydexx
Date:November 2nd, 2008 06:11 pm (UTC)

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Hear, hear!
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:November 2nd, 2008 06:42 pm (UTC)
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OMG, love the logo! (Of course, knowing the non-furry public, it might turn people off voting for Obama because furries support him. We'll have to make a "Furries for McCain" logo and get that out there more, I know of a few Republican furries.)

I was on barackobama.com recently and saw all the various Obama designs that one can download, including a "pride" logo, and one for every state and territory (and Dems Abroad) that incorporabe the "O" logo where possible (and modified if not). Very creative. Another reason to vote for him, I've never seen a derivative McCain logo, and going to his website doesn't look like there is one.

(Yes, I know, creativity isn't a reason to vote for someone either, but it gives them bonus points IMHO.)
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:November 2nd, 2008 09:33 pm (UTC)
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No, the general public's view of furries is not "Ew, those icky furries", but "What's a furry?" Anyway, there are enough furries supporting McCain already, they don't need our help. :}
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From:xydexx
Date:November 3rd, 2008 12:35 am (UTC)

A stake through the heart of the "furries are icky" myth

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Of course, knowing the non-furry public, it might turn people off voting for Obama because furries support him.

Not really, considering these days only people who hate furries are Rush Limbaugh and people who agree with him. Even George Bush says he hates human-animal hybrids. The non-furry public who supports Obama is a lot smarter than that, so furries definitely aren't a turn-off.

They're, y'know.... hawt.


Otherwise, pretty much what KT said. The impression of furry fandom among the general public is not "ew, furries" but rather "what's a furry?"

Edited at 2008-11-03 12:42 am (UTC)
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From:barberio
Date:November 2nd, 2008 06:19 pm (UTC)
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Altho, I think sitting down for some coffee and pie would be better. That guy sure knows his pies!
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:November 2nd, 2008 06:36 pm (UTC)
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True!

Mmm, piiiie.
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:November 2nd, 2008 06:44 pm (UTC)
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This is a story I've missed, do tell!

(Maybe instead of declaring war on, say, Iran, he could just hurl a pie at Ahmenijad (spelled from memory, so apologies if off), I'd pay to see that live on CNN!)
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From:wbwolf
Date:November 2nd, 2008 06:46 pm (UTC)

We need tasty pie

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http://www.weebls-stuff.com/wab/rally
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:November 2nd, 2008 08:51 pm (UTC)

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D'oh! Yeah, I clearly remember seeing that!
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From:ceruleanst
Date:November 2nd, 2008 09:36 pm (UTC)

Re: We need tasty pie

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It's not isolated. Obama has been seen enjoying pie just about everywhere he goes.
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From:octan
Date:November 3rd, 2008 05:08 pm (UTC)
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Except not coffee, apparently.
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:November 3rd, 2008 07:06 pm (UTC)

Conformist much?

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Wow, those guys are asses. Amazing how they make not wanting coffee sound like some kind of venal sin! Welp, send me to hell too, I guess; I don't drink the stuff either. And how the heck is wanting orange juice instead of coffee a "menu substitution"? What is this, Five Easy Pieces? Hey Chris Matthews... I wantcha to hold the chicken between your knees!
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From:wbwolf
Date:November 2nd, 2008 06:42 pm (UTC)
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Don't forget to claim your free Dr. Pepper now that Guns 'n Roses is releasing Chinese Democracy before the end of 2008.
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From:kinkyturtle
Date:November 2nd, 2008 09:37 pm (UTC)
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4 to 6 weeks?! Sheesh, it's not like Dr Pepper is normally all that expensive... :}

Anyway, I'm not a G'nR fan. By which I mean I'm indifferent to G'nR, as opposed to the way some people use the phrase "I'm not a fan of ___" to mean "I hate ___". We could use a word that unambiguously means you don't care one way or the other about something.
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From:xydexx
Date:November 3rd, 2008 12:45 am (UTC)
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We could use a word that unambiguously means you don't care one way or the other about something.

Meh.
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From:calamitycougar
Date:November 2nd, 2008 06:59 pm (UTC)

Yew got it all wrong

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See, yew iz looking at it the wrong way. When yew give them enough beer eventually they will tell yew the truth of they did, what they will really do and so on. Heck if we did this tu all the candidates heck we wood all beh bettah off.

Doctah Peppah? With JD Maybeh.
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From:orv
Date:November 2nd, 2008 08:04 pm (UTC)

Re: Yew got it all wrong

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I don't know. McCain seems more like the kind of guy who would launch into long stories about his past that don't go anywhere, like Grandpa Simpson.
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From:thecanuckguy
Date:November 2nd, 2008 08:54 pm (UTC)

Re: Yew got it all wrong

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Back then we called nickels bees on account of them having Bees on 'em. "Gimme five bees for a quarter," you'd say. Now where were we? Oh--the important thing was, I had an onion on my belt--which was the style at the time...
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From:deckardcanine
Date:November 3rd, 2008 02:29 am (UTC)
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The way politics divide people today, I think the candidate they most agree with usually will be the one they'd most like to have a beer with. Not only will they worry less about getting into an argument, but they won't lose their appetite just looking at him.
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From:zexyz
Date:November 3rd, 2008 01:24 pm (UTC)
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Jon Cleese agrees with you...
http://vodpod.com/politics/watch/10305-video-john-cleese-joins-countdown

"They all wanted George W to be president because he was someone you could have a beer with. Someone you could feel comfortable with. I dont' want a president I can feel comfortable with. I want a president who's so damned smart and well informed and sharp and a good asessor of people I would just keep my mouth shut..."
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